I don't say that the supposed Civil Rights development is a myth, but it's a matter of dealing with reality. It's purely peripheral and, in many cases, it's just a facade.

The public, hearing pop music, is, without knowing it, also soaking up jazz.

As long as we're in a democracy, I have to give what I think the majority of people will enjoy.

Amsterdam must have more than a million people. But the only area where jazz is really profitable and successful in an economic sense is in Japan. That's because they haven't been exposed enough.