And that does concern me, because we're not getting enough back for our taxes that we're paying. I think we really have to look at the whole sort of area.

If you introduce kids to fishing, they become good citizens.

And one thing I can be proud of is we have a 'Come and Try Fishing' day every year. And there's 20 venues throughout the state, and see, these thousands of kids who've never been fishing come along.

I've known Jan, probably, very well for, well, for over a decade. And the passion that Jan just showed the viewers in that particular piece is very real.